Comments for The Anonymous SoapBox http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com Random rants on life Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:09:37 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The New Dark Ages by sphyrnatude http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/the-new-dark-ages/#comment-1185 sphyrnatude Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:09:37 +0000 http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/?p=329#comment-1185 OK, i think I can agree that there has never been a true socialist, capitalist, or communist society (at least one that survived for more than a generation). I can also agree that the "compromised ideals" of each of these models that HAVE formed, survived, and eventually failed all have their pros and cons (I put all of the major current governments in rising or falling - I have yet to see one in equilibrium). The real bitch is that no matter what system a country chooses, there will always be some level of compromise required. Some of the population will be satisfied with compromise (as exhibited by their willingness to remain in the country), others will not (as exhibited by their leaving the country, or becoming revolutionaries). The goal of governments is to keep the general populace either completely subjugated, or to convince them that the current system isn't perfect, but is the best there is. Most governments use a combination of the two. Doesn't matter if they are socialist, communist, capitalist or whatever. The mechanism makes very little difference to the "regular people". Those in power will have the majority of the benefits, those not in power will have less. OK, i think I can agree that there has never been a true socialist, capitalist, or communist society (at least one that survived for more than a generation). I can also agree that the “compromised ideals” of each of these models that HAVE formed, survived, and eventually failed all have their pros and cons (I put all of the major current governments in rising or falling – I have yet to see one in equilibrium).

The real bitch is that no matter what system a country chooses, there will always be some level of compromise required. Some of the population will be satisfied with compromise (as exhibited by their willingness to remain in the country), others will not (as exhibited by their leaving the country, or becoming revolutionaries). The goal of governments is to keep the general populace either completely subjugated, or to convince them that the current system isn’t perfect, but is the best there is. Most governments use a combination of the two. Doesn’t matter if they are socialist, communist, capitalist or whatever. The mechanism makes very little difference to the “regular people”. Those in power will have the majority of the benefits, those not in power will have less.

]]> Comment on The New Dark Ages by despicable http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/the-new-dark-ages/#comment-1184 despicable Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:15:42 +0000 http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/?p=329#comment-1184 Their has never been a communist society, and if a communist society existed, the state apparatus would have withered away and you would have an administration of things not an administration of people. Obviously the conditions for the state to exercise power is present under the system of socialism and under the system of capitalism. The economy that exists inside a capitalist and socialist society can be characterized as being that of a “Market Economy!” and that of a “Planned Economy!” A “Market Economy” is designed to enrich the competing capitalists and to give prestige and power to the most successful for market share! It is a “Top Down” system where the most successful competitors rule the market place and attempt to buy off all opposition. Under a “Socialist Planned Economy” their exists not competition for market share, but “Cooperation” for the sharing of what is produced, with the entire society. Much of what was attempted failed in the former Soviet Union because the conditions and resources that would make this possible were not yet present in a powerful capitalist dominated world. Under the old “Soviet Union” and under the capitalism of the USA and elsewhere, you have and had similar government rule that was for the most part pragmatic in their approach to governing their respective societies. The amount of constitutional free speech and association and guaranteed rights under every and any government apparatus is contingent on the existing internal conditions. Every nations distinct history, culture, religion and psychological nature has everything to do with how the people under the stress of conflict and necessary change will conduct themselves. To say that a socialist or a capitalist government will act in a different way to insure the preservation or extension of their particular economic system, is false. The history of conflict between opposing classes and nations have been for the most part, PRAGMATIC! “Fascism,” is the dictatorship of the CAPITALIST CLASS!” “Socialism” is the dictatorship of the WORKING CLASS! ….“Democracy is possible under both Capitalism and Socialism when the conditions of revolution, rebellion, martial law, insurrection, and counter revolution, are not threatening the status quo of Capitalism and Socialism. http://despicable.wordpress.com/ Their has never been a communist society, and if a communist society existed, the state apparatus would have withered away and you would have an administration of things not an administration of people. Obviously the conditions for the state to exercise power is present under the system of socialism and under the system of capitalism.
The economy that exists inside a capitalist and socialist society can be characterized as being that of a “Market Economy!” and that of a “Planned Economy!”
A “Market Economy” is designed to enrich the competing capitalists and to give prestige and power to the most successful for market share!
It is a “Top Down” system where the most successful competitors rule the market place and attempt to buy off all opposition.
Under a “Socialist Planned Economy” their exists not competition for market share, but “Cooperation” for the sharing of what is produced, with the entire society. Much of what was attempted failed in the former Soviet Union because the conditions and resources that would make this possible were not yet present in a powerful capitalist dominated world.
Under the old “Soviet Union” and under the capitalism of the USA and elsewhere, you have and had similar government rule that was for the most part pragmatic in their approach to governing their respective societies.
The amount of constitutional free speech and association and guaranteed rights under every and any government apparatus is contingent on the existing internal conditions. Every nations distinct history, culture, religion and psychological nature has everything to do with how the people under the stress of conflict and necessary change will conduct themselves.
To say that a socialist or a capitalist government will act in a different way to insure the preservation or extension of their particular economic system, is false. The history of conflict between opposing classes and nations have been for the most part, PRAGMATIC!
“Fascism,” is the dictatorship of the CAPITALIST CLASS!” “Socialism” is the dictatorship of the WORKING CLASS! ….“Democracy is possible under both Capitalism and Socialism when the conditions of revolution, rebellion, martial law, insurrection, and counter revolution, are not threatening the status quo of Capitalism and Socialism.
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]]> Comment on The New Dark Ages by sphyrnatude http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/the-new-dark-ages/#comment-1183 sphyrnatude Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:42:22 +0000 http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/?p=329#comment-1183 Despicable: interesting rant. definitely rates up there on the rant scale. Pretty near the top at that. A bit weak on content though. From what I gather, you're opposed to capitalism, and prefer socialism? Care to expound? Despicable:
interesting rant. definitely rates up there on the rant scale. Pretty near the top at that. A bit weak on content though. From what I gather, you’re opposed to capitalism, and prefer socialism? Care to expound?

]]> Comment on The New Dark Ages by despicable http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/the-new-dark-ages/#comment-1182 despicable Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:24:14 +0000 http://sphyrnatude.wordpress.com/?p=329#comment-1182 The corrupting world wide, private enterprise, of the “Narcotics Trade, the “Prostitution Rings,” the corrupting influence of government politicians, on the take, being bought off, and treated like a valuable commodity, by the “Merchants of world wide “Private Capital.” These “Free enterprise merchants of death, that starts world wars, so that they can make “Blood Money” on the backs of the ordinary citizen soldiers.
This powerful capitalist oligarchy, that has power that is all consuming and is of global proportion, dwarfs our government, and every government on the planet. This insidious, global private sector, causes more damage, then governments, because it has bought off most of the politicians and corrupted them, and infiltrated governments on the entire planet. It is this conglomeration of world wide capitalist rule, that rules the people of the world, with an iron hand. 
Those that are a part of our PRIVATE SECTOR, …for the sake of making a profit, has and had, … made a “Pact, With The Devil,” …and the “PUBLIC BE DAMNED!” By pretending that the “GOVERNMENT is the ENEMY,” those that can’t see too well, are distracted from the real enemy, and that enemy is the global oligarchy, of “Capitalist Blood Suckers,” that are intent on continuing their bloody war, on the average, ordinary citizen. These criminal, PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, world wide syndicates, are fighting this criminal murderous war, all over our capitalist planet. Only a planned “Socialist Economy,” can rid our planet of the corrupting influence of the private enterprise of criminal gang activity, that is organized to compete, kill, rape, and murder, …for profit and power! http://despicable.wordpress.com/ 
 The corrupting world wide, private enterprise, of the “Narcotics Trade, the “Prostitution Rings,” the corrupting influence of government politicians, on the take, being bought off, and treated like a valuable commodity, by the “Merchants of world wide “Private Capital.” These “Free enterprise merchants of death, that starts world wars, so that they can make “Blood Money” on the backs of the ordinary citizen soldiers.
This powerful capitalist oligarchy, that has power that is all consuming and is of global proportion, dwarfs our government, and every government on the planet. This insidious, global private sector, causes more damage, then governments, because it has bought off most of the politicians and corrupted them, and infiltrated governments on the entire planet. It is this conglomeration of world wide capitalist rule, that rules the people of the world, with an iron hand.

Those that are a part of our PRIVATE SECTOR, …for the sake of making a profit, has and had, … made a “Pact, With The Devil,” …and the “PUBLIC BE DAMNED!”
By pretending that the “GOVERNMENT is the ENEMY,” those that can’t see too well, are distracted from the real enemy, and that enemy is the global oligarchy, of “Capitalist Blood Suckers,” that are intent on continuing their bloody war, on the average, ordinary citizen.
These criminal, PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, world wide syndicates, are fighting this criminal murderous war, all over our capitalist planet.
Only a planned “Socialist Economy,” can rid our planet of the corrupting influence of the private enterprise of criminal gang activity, that is organized to compete, kill, rape, and murder, …for profit and power!

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